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ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482313] Thu, 11 November 2010 00:56 Go to next message
AviatoR
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Hi Gurus,

Can you please tel me the role of a core DBA in application upgradation.

things need to be taken care by a database administrator before and after the application upgradation. thanks in advance
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482323 is a reply to message #482313] Thu, 11 November 2010 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do NOT post your title in UPPER case.

What is "core DBA"?

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things need to be taken care by a database administrator before and after the application upgradation

That the application still work. He just have to wait for user feedback.

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Michel

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Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482330 is a reply to message #482323] Thu, 11 November 2010 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sorry for the upper case...

i need to co-ordinate with the app dba for rolling upgradation, so what i need to take care as a core DBA
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482331 is a reply to message #482330] Thu, 11 November 2010 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Still don't know what is a "core DBA".

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Michel
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482332 is a reply to message #482331] Thu, 11 November 2010 01:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the one who is responsible for the database and make sure that it is available,performant,recoverable
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482335 is a reply to message #482331] Thu, 11 November 2010 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As per Indian Terminology They devide DBA task into two 1) Core DBA
2) APPS DBA

Core DBA manages only the data base and related objects within the DB and are also responsible for applying new DB related patches. Apps DBA will also has similar responsibilities but with little more extensions. In Apps, Apps DBAs are also responsible for creating cutom tables in DB (the process is little different in Apps) and applying Apps patches along with the DB pathces and so on.

In general they will also manage Apache server, forms server and reports server also.

DBA will handle entire database administration and maintenance.
ORACLE APPS DBA will be able to do the functionalities of DBA and including administration of oracle applications.


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Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482336 is a reply to message #482335] Thu, 11 November 2010 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks sriram, what would be the role of a core DBA while application upgradation.

What are the things need to be taken care of?
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482339 is a reply to message #482336] Thu, 11 November 2010 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Run the Upgradation scripts maintain DB in healthy way. Wink
In fact it depends on each and every organisation terms and policies and the roles given to you right now.

So that you can expect nothing from me sorry

sriram
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482343 is a reply to message #482339] Thu, 11 November 2010 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so u mean to say that the database also should be upgraded when application is upgraded?
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482344 is a reply to message #482339] Thu, 11 November 2010 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In fact it depends on each and every organisation terms and policies and the roles given to you right now.

And so my question, the terms of core DBA and app DBA depend on each entreprise.
OP's question cannot be answered without a clear and precise definition of each one of these DBA roles.

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Michel
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482345 is a reply to message #482343] Thu, 11 November 2010 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NO
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he roles given to you right now

maintain DB in healthy way ,Its not your headache to do the things related to Application,
You have to make sure that everything fine from your side

Sriram
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482346 is a reply to message #482345] Thu, 11 November 2010 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@ Michel
I agree.
Thats Why I said "you can expect nothing" Smile

Sriram
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #482495 is a reply to message #482335] Fri, 12 November 2010 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ramoradba wrote on Thu, 11 November 2010 08:43
Core DBA manages only the data base and related objects within the DB and are also responsible for applying new DB related patches. ... In Apps, Apps DBAs are also responsible for ... applying Apps patches along with the DB pathces and so on.

So who is responsible for the database patches? Looks to me like they can both apply them. Sounds like fun..
Re: ROLE OF CORE DBA IN APPLICATION UPGRADATION [message #483320 is a reply to message #482313] Sat, 20 November 2010 04:25 Go to previous message
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In Apps, Apps DBAs are also responsible for creating cutom tables in DB (the process is little different in Apps) and applying Apps patches along with the DB pathces and so on.
In general they will also manage Apache server, forms server and reports server also.


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